But I am curious about accumulating comps at a table. I also know that casino groups are different with comp rules, but I just am looking for general thoughts based on your own situations and nothing really specific about a particular system.
If I remember correctly someone a couple months ago said with a minimum bet of $25 for 4 hours, the casino would consider comping more than just a meal.
Any of you have thoughts about what a casino would offer for a comp other than a meal for that amount of play?
I assume something might be subtracted from the hotel bill, but it%26#39;s doubtful a room would be comped at that level, correct?
I have been practicing online and seriously thinking about trying the tables when we head back to Vegas in December, so I am wondering what to expect (if anything) for that level of play...thanks in advance for your comments.
This isn't about chasing comps...
Where are you planning to stay and play?
This isn't about chasing comps...
TD
You HAVE to try tables games. I never knew what I was missing till I tried it. As far as comps I always give my card (I%26#39;m a $5 table guy, craps and let it ride) Most of the time they take the card, some dont because I am not betting enough. If nothing else ask for a line pass
TopekaDucky,
It all really depends on the game played and where you are playing. Craps, Black Jack and Baccarat will net you less in comps vs. games such as Pai Gow, Let it Ride, 3 card Poker and Carribean Stud. The latter are considered ';Carnival'; games and have a house edge much higher than the former. There are exceptions for people who play sucker bets for all games, (hard ways, insurance, ties and progressives on the carnival games) so there are many variables.
I always play smart and don%26#39;t sweat the comps, but one thing is true no matter what. If you play any table game at any level for four hours, get the bosses attention and ask. At 5 bucks/ hand for four hours you should at least rate a buffet or coffee shop comp in many places. Maybe more in others.
I hope that helped. In Dec. you shouldn%26#39;t have a problem rating something from all but the higher rated properties.
Hi there!
I used to gamble very little when I started going to Vegas.......then I started playing craps with my husband and I really enjoy playing that %26amp; blackjack!
I really think if you tried it you would like it.......let us know what game you have in mind....
You really need to give it a try!! Lea :)
if you play $25 a hand you are already ahead of the game because you will get good rules on blackjack.
depending on how they calculate the comps you should get around $50 per 4 hr session in comps. that should be a nice coffee shop meal or maybe a good room discount depending on where you are staying and if it is weekday or weekend.
Ducky,
Here%26#39;s my personal experience based on $25-$50 a hand (unless noted).
Downtown:
Golden Nugget: VERY tight with free rooms...but one of the easiest food comps in Vegas. Food is very easy to get from the floor supervisors.
Plaza: $25 a hand for a few hours will get you free rooms in the mail (including weekends). Very easy food comps from the pit. Keep your expectations LOW if you plan on staying here...but it%26#39;s a good place to play blackjack.
Fitzgeralds: Easiest ';free room'; in Vegas (Stratosphere is a close second). Bet $15 a hand and you%26#39;ll get invited to tournaments for ';free'; (3-night stay). They%26#39;re also generous with food...but it%26#39;s based on ';points'; so pit bosses have limited authority.
El Cortez: A little tighter than it should be for free rooms....but food is an easy comp.
Four Queens: I%26#39;ve never been offered anything here...but other table players have.
STRIP:
MGMMirage:
Mandalay Bay,NYNY, MGM and Luxor are the only four ';Players Club'; properties to offer me free weeknights.MB probably only because I like to play video blackjack at the bar before taking a cab to the airport(and Players Club treats it as slot play as far as points go). The rule of thumb with the MGMMirage group is to take your average bet per hour and expect to earn about half of it back. So a $25 a hand BJ player can expect to earn roughly $43-$48 in comps based on four hours of play. I think they are very generous with free food...especially if you%26#39;re not a guest there.
Harrah%26#39;s Total Rewards group:
An established $25-$50 bettor will get 2-3 free weeknights at all of their hotels (except Caesars). The catch is they deal bad blackjack games and they are stingy with ';reward credits';...so you%26#39;ll have to pay for most of your meals.
Stratosphere: I only played a couple of hours there a few years ago (average bet was probaly less than $25) and still get free weeknights in the mail.
what everyone else is saying is correct, also, playing roulette will net you high table comps since it has one of the highest house advantages.
For some of the more upscale strip hotels, here is what i%26#39;ve gathered
Bellagio- I%26#39;ve played here the least and unless you are average $100 a hand, they won%26#39;t bat at eye for anything less than hat.
Wynn- I play here the most and average a solid $125-150+ a hand at craps, they consider the minimum for room comps at $150 so i%26#39;m still a little under that (but i%26#39;m comfortable where i%26#39;m at) but usually do get great room rates at least
Ducky, for what it%26#39;s worth give table games a chance even if comps don%26#39;t enter into the equation. I%26#39;m not dissing slots players but there%26#39;s nothing like the fun and cameraderie of a ';hot'; blackjack or craps table. People you%26#39;ve never set eyes on an hour previously feel like your best friends!
For what it%26#39;s worth I don%26#39;t really bet enough these days to get many comps but an exception was my trip in April when I played a lot. 6-8 hours per day of a combination of $25-50 per hand blackjack and $40 ($20 pairplus + $20 ante) three card poker got me three comped nights at THEhotel plus some meals and spa charges that were on the room.
I don%26#39;t play slots or table games (will play BJ once in a great while), but I was amazed how I didn%26#39;t get comps at the sports book. I usually bet from 500-2000 on baseball or football games. One weekend, I lost about 4.5k on baseball and never received anything. I know there are much bigger bets being placed, but mine are surely above average. I think the books should take the players cards as well. I now have my plays manually logged at the books and after getting to know a few of the book managers, now get meals, shows and rooms.
Here are a couple basics about comps:
#1 Only play what you would play anyway.
#2 Avoid short play days on the ends of your trips.
#3 Do rough calculation so you know what to request.
some more advanced ';tricks'; that I%26#39;ve read and tried and found to be succesful:
#1 I like to concentrate my play at two places (Wynn %26amp; Bellagio for me) so I can play them off against each other for comps. OAbout half the time I%26#39;ll get a better offer when they try to match the other place. Loyalty is not as important as competing for business with the decrease in discretionary comps. Make dinner reservations at the place you are NOT staying at, they will comp it upfront because you can%26#39;t sign it to your room. If you are staying there they will always tell you---sign it to the room and then they may or may not comp it when you check out.
#2 After a few stays you should get comped up front (not on back end based on play), then you can put in minimal play and take your free vacation with no risk.
Example:
Trip 1: Stay at Wynn---comped at end based on play
Trip 2: Stay at Wynn---comped at end based on play
Trip 3: Stay at Wynn---comped up front, don%26#39;t play much. they won%26#39;t comp you up front next time but you can repeat this process and have every third trip be less risky (this works and it is in the book comp city).
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